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Poster: staggerleib Date: Sep 28, 2007 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

I wonder if the R&RHOF ever heard of Todd Rundgren either...

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Poster: Stealz Date: Sep 28, 2007 9:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

I kinda just figured John Mayall's Bluesbreakers and Mark Knopfler were givens. Guess I was wrong. Looking over the list of past inductees to the "hall" is astonishing only in the volume of worthy yet absent candidates. I guess it's also somewhat amazing to see some of those who are actually in this farce of a hall of fame. I echo your sentiments Bryan.

http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/alphabetical-list/

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 28, 2007 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Johnny Winter is not listed, I repeat Johnny is NOT an INDUCTEE.

Makes me think the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is high on CRACK!!!!!!

Holy Mackerel - Edgar is not on the list either - he should be inducted for Frankenstein alone!!!!!!

The R&R Hall of Shame is rigged I tell ya Rigged!!!!!

Oh Wait - At least the Bee Gees made it - things might be OK after all!!!

Oh not so Fast - No Blue Oyster Cult!!!! Things may not be so well!!

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 28, 2007 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Well, since you're getting me started after I got this started, Todd's absence is one very big gripe I have. Here's only part of the rest of my list of complaints:

Yes

Tull

Guess Who

ELP

ELO (And I was never even that big of an ELO fan, either, but Madonna? Chic? Donna Freakin' Summer? Does the sign in front of the place say Disco Hall of Fame or Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? And the goddamned Beastie Boys? Get real!)

And my all-time top vote-getter for biggest Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snub-ee, John Mayall!

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Sep 28, 2007 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

WOW I did not realize that all of those bands aren't in the hall! I'm not much of an ELO fan also, but yeah, even they deserve to be there more than...oh, the BEASTIE BOYS?!?!


But hey, maybe Leonard Cohen will make it in. Good songwriter! And as much as I don't like him, John Mellencamp probably deserves to be there as well. But not before Yes, Tull, Guess Who, etc.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 28, 2007 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

You guys need to take some time and explore ALL the stuff the Beatie Boys have done. They are innovators. WORD!

Several albums came ahead of their time.....Paul's Boutique for one.

Guys like G-love and Sublime have the Beasties to thank for inventing these cross-over genres.(Hip-hop/funk, hip-hop jazz, and BB's were among the early users of rock n' roll riffs to accompany primitive rap)

If I played guitar I'd be Jimmy Page...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 28, 2007 12:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

I agree re Paul's Boutique. Landmark album.

Also, if anyone saw their tour with Firehose (MIKE WATT!) then they know that the bands handed over their instruments to one another and both blistered. They are not just some white punks badly rappping - they are a whole lot more than that.

Give me time and I will try to defend Madonna (and eviscerate my less bit of self-respect; she is the sister-in-law of another vastly underrated, very talented artist by the name of Joe Henry).

I do agree the idea of a R&R HOF is a joke. But the Sex Pistols were the only ones to tell the hall to fuck off when they got recognition. Also, I find it amusing that the hall is in Cleveland, but the ceremony never takes place there.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 28, 2007 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDNDqYl65sU

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 28, 2007 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Never saw that...remember when Elvis did it the 1st time! Rock ON!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOuknbvu21Q&mode=related&search=

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 28, 2007 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

How come these guys didn't make it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvcuaJy9OwI

Devo channels Jimi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qonTIZGu27w

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 28, 2007 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

I saw Devo back in 1981 and Fripp and Levin were in audience. Just write them off as too ahead of their time. Speaking of which, is any incarnation of Crimson in the hall? What about Eno?

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 28, 2007 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Of course not.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 28, 2007 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

You can have 'em.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Sep 28, 2007 9:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

This Hall of Fame stuff is just another attempt by the RIAA, to shove their corporate Top 40 shit down ouur throats. The Garateful Dead didn't become pricks until Jerry was dead for 10 years.

No more tours. No more money. No more SBDs to download here after Thaksgiving holidays of 2005...

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 29, 2007 7:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

waa, waa, waa

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Sep 28, 2007 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)


I don't know, to me the whole idea of a "rock-and-roll hall of fame" contradicts the spirit of rock-and-roll. Who wants to stand in line and pay money to see the last place Del Shannon took a dump?

In the immortal words of Thomas Jeffeson Slave Apartments:
Bombs away on the rock-and-roll hall of fame
Even if I got invited, I'd probably feel the same

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 28, 2007 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

very interesting ... a fan of TJSA; did you ever get the opportunity to see them live?

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Sep 29, 2007 6:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Kind of a fan, I had "Bait and Switch" and always loved that record. It was one of those CDs that kept playing with nary a skip even after becoming incredibly trashed from flying around the car, you know, someone moves the seat back and you hear a terrifying crack, you're thinking well, that's finally done it then, but nope; again, it plays. I think I finally drove off with it on the roof--surprised it didn't chase me down.

Never saw them live, but I've seen those other Columbus maniacs New Bomb Turks many times.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 28, 2007 10:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)

Your point is well taken. A shrine to the upstart, rebel bastard child of blues and hillbilly music? Sure, I hear ya'. But something that has had such a huge impact on this culture in which we live does deserve legitimate recognition. And that recognition should be decided by historians and genuine fans, not by a bunch of industry shills who don't give a damn about what this music means to people who care about it.

"Who wants to stand in line and pay money to see the last place Del Shannon took a dump?"

You ask that like it's a bad thing. :)

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Sep 28, 2007 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Here We Go Again (Rock & Roll Hall of Fame)


Well, sure, if you're going to have the thing, at least induct the good ones, absolutely. And by "good" I don't mean just the artists I like; I'm not a Yes fan, but they should be in. Conversely, I love Miles Davis, but why the hell put him in there? Because they'll sell an assload of tickets to folks who wouldn't normally visit, is my guess.

I mean, Madonna? Rocked what, when? Whose ass Madonna rocked? They just further weaken an already tenuous (to my mind) institution inducting artists that no one, like 'em or hate 'em, would consider "rock."

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